Bought these when I started riding they fit good and help with the sore bum on shorter rides. I bought this to help offset the numbness after being on a bike seat for a few hours. The first time I wore it, my bike trip was about 4.5 hours long and I was walking around fine afterwards. Packed with features, the men's Zoic Ether Shorts with a detachable liner are ideal for riding everything from all-mountain trails to cross-country outings to urban commutes. Available at REI, 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed. ZOIC is the original mountain bike clothing brand. We design high performance mountain bike shorts, jerseys, gloves, and cycling socks for men, women & kids. ZOIC bike shorts offered with or without padded liner shorts; upgrade liner to match your ride time for more comfort. We also design mtb tees, hats, and hoodies. Zoic is mountain bike life.